Brownouts, ancillary services and transmission charge

* This is my article in BusinessWorld last February 23, 2017.

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Rotational and scheduled brownouts for several hours about once a month, then unscheduled short brownouts from time to time, have become a regular experience in the two provinces of Negros island. Despite the installation of many huge solar plants in recent years.

I am currently in Sagay hospital in Negros Occidental to visit my seriously sick father. Last night, there was brownout for about 10 minutes, the hospital’s generator set immediately takes over to supply electricity to their patients and staff.

The Facebook page of the Central Negros Electric Cooperative (CENECO) gives frequent advisory of power interruption that lasts for nine hours (8 a.m. to 5 p.m.) until this month.

Stories and testimonies of frequent brownouts in many cities and municipalities of Negros Oriental in 2016 are also reported in dumagueteinfo.com.

In June 2016, the Department of Energy (DoE) said that line congestion is building up in Negros Occidental due to many solar power plants operating in the province. The abrupt influx of solar power plants is causing the main line, transmission and interconnection lines to congest (Sun Star Bacolod, June 10, 2016).

This month, Negros Occidental Electric Cooperative (NOCECO) explained that one of the main reasons of higher electricity is the increase in the transmission charge from P1.0538/kWh in January 2017 to P1.1777/kWh in February 2017 or an increase of 0.1239/kWh. The transmission rate hike is due to the increase in the ancillary service charges of the National Grid Corporation of the Philippines (NGCP).

There are at least two issues here. First is the presence of more brownouts in Negros island despite its having the most number of installed solar power plants per sq. km. of land in the whole country, more than 300 MW.

Solar power is very unstable and intermittent, zero output at night and very low output when it is cloudy, or power fluctuates wildly if clouds come and go in minutes. So there should be more ancillary services or standby power plants, usually natural gas or diesel plants, that should quickly provide power when thick clouds come and when evening comes. Still, this causes power fluctuations that damage machines, engines and appliances running on electricity and the leadership of Negros chamber of commerce and industry have pointed this out to the DoE and NGCP last year.

Second, how is the NGCP regulated and accounted in its transmission charge pricing and assets management?

Power generation is deregulated and hence, the extent of competition among many players is the main regulator of the generation charge. Distribution charge is regulated by the Energy Regulatory Commission (ERC) because distribution utilities (DUs) like Meralco and the roughly 119 electric cooperatives (ECs) nationwide are all monopolies in their respective franchise areas.

So while there are 120+ distribution monopolies composed of private DUs and ECs, the NGCP is a single, national monopoly in power transmission.

There are 12 different charges in our monthly electricity bill. The top six in the table below, and these five charges with lesser rates: (7) universal charge, (8) cross subsidy charge, (9) lifeline rate subsidy, (10) senior citizen subsidy, and (11) feed in tariff allowance (FiT-All). No. (12) are value-added tax (VAT) and other government taxes, these are huge too but not included in the table because they are unrelated to the electricity system.

Of these 12 different charges, subsidies and taxes, the smallest is #10 while the fastest growing is #11, FiT-All: P0.04/kWh in 2015, 0.124/kWh in 2016, and set to rise to P0.23-P0.25/kWh this 2017, the ERC still has to decide on the Transco petition for FiT-All hike (see table).

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Notice in the table above the following: (1) In 2013 vs. 2017, all five charges have declined in rates in 2017 except transmission charge which has remained practically the same at P0.91/kWh. And (2) In 2014 vs. 2015, a similar pattern where all five charges have declined in rates in 2015 except transmission charge which has even increased to nearly P1/kWh.

The possible explanations why the transmission charge by NGCP seems to be the odd man out among the top six charges are (1) rising cost of more ancillary services as more intermittent solar-wind power are added into the grid, (2) it passes its own system loss to the transmission charge, (3) it simply behaves like a typical monopoly, revenue-maximizing as consumers and other players have zero option of other service supplier/s.

20170222be0f6Brownouts and expensive electricity, these are ironic events in our modern world. We should have stable and cheap electricity, no brownouts even for one minute except after heavy storms and typhoons that knock down electrical posts and power lines.

Government should step back in some heavy regulations like forcing intermittent solar-wind into the grid which can discourage some developers who can build stable and cheaper power like coal and natgas plants. And giving high price guaranty for 20 years to renewables like wind-solar is wrong and punishing the consumers. Technology changes very fast, the costs of solar and wind equipment are falling fast, so why lock the high price for 20 years? This is wrong.

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Helios solar power in Cadiz City, Negros Occ.

I am from Cadiz City, Negros Occidental. Our house is not at the city proper but in a barrio along the national road, same barangay, about 3 kms. from the famous, biggest solar power plant in the Philippines and SE Asia. Am here to visit my sick father in the  hospital. The other day, I went around and visited the facility, just outside.

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The National Grid Corp. of the Philippines (NGCP) put up a sub-station there, so that power generated from the plant is directly fed into the grid. Solar, wind, biomass, run of river hydro are priority dispatch in the grid, based on the RE law of 2008 (RA 9513).

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The area used to be a sugar cane farm. The plant’s rated or installed capacity is 132 MW, quite big, occupying some 176 hectares, cost P10 billion. Perhaps the area is larger, if the buffer zone between the two fences is included. The usual ratio for solar is 2 hectares of land per 1 MW of installed capacity.

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This is the view from The Garden memorial park. My mother was buried here last year. Notice something — no trees around the solar farm. Not one. At the background are several mountains, Mt. Silay, etc.

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A view from outside the gate. The guard allows taking photos outside the perimeter fence. Again, not a single tree is allowed. Solar power’s main “enemy” is shade — from clouds and tall trees — they immediately bring down solar output.

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The view from a road going to/coming from Hda. Paz proper. Two fences, outside fence is ordinary wire, fence inside is electrified + there are roving guards.

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Another view from a road going to Hda. Paz. Some locals there say that if it’s a cloudless day, the heat reflected back by the solar panels can be felt by them. Others say they don’t feel such extra heat.

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Helios power was inaugurated last March 03, 2016. It was big news in Negros and in some national newspapers.

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The personalities who graced the opening included Cadiz City Mayor Patrick Escalante, Negros Occ. Governor Alfredo Maranon, the  owners of the plant, French Ambassador in Manila, incoming Sen. Zubiri.

Again, I am not against solar, wind, biomass, etc. What I am against are the various subsidies, fiscal favoritism that are given to them but not to coal, natural gas, geothermal, big hydro.

Meanwhile, other environmentalists should notice the contradiction between their “plant trees to save the planet” campaign vs solar plant’s “no tree/s allowed to save the planet.”

The Visayas grid and proposed coal plant in Negros

* Originally posted on May 31, 2015.

In the May 2010 population census nationwide, Negros Occidental including Bacolod City has 2.9 million  people while Negros Oriental including Dumaguete City has 1.3 million, or a total of 4.2 million people for Negros island. The average annual  population growth rate of the two provinces from 2000-2010   are 2.1 percent for western or Occidental Negros and around 1.3 percent for  eastern Negros.

Assuming a similar population growth rate for 2010-2015, this means that this May 2015, the Occidental and Oriental provinces will have a projected population of 3.34 and 1.39 million respectively, or a total of 4.73 million, a big number of people.

Currently, the people in the two provinces experience occasional power fluctuations with isolated “Earth Hours”. Bacolod alone is expanding fast with lots of big malls, commercial centers and big subdivisions. The Silay-Bacolod airport may soon become an international airport. Its electricity need will be huge with those many big bright lights to guide airplanes landing and taking off at nights, serve the passenger terminal which must expand too.

There are three renewable plants in Negros island. First, the Palinpinon geothermal plant in Valencia, Negros Oriental. It was commissioned in 1984 or 31 years ago, has an installed capacity of 192 MW. Old plants tend to suffer from frequent breakdown and low capacity factor. Energy Development Corp. (EDC) which bought Palinpinon from Napocor also commissioned a new, 49 MW geothermal plant in September 2014.

Second, there is a new solar power plant in San Carlos City, Negros Occidental, 22 MW and was commissioned only in May 2014. But solar plants have low average capacity factor (actual power generation over installed capacity), only around 20 percent. At night, output is zero and on cloudy days, output is small. Thus, on average, that solar plant can produce electricity by 4-5 MW only.

Third, there is a bioethanol power plant also in San Carlos City. But it is opposed by so many people because of the foul smell, reaching several kilometers away. The plant is using sugarcane bagasse. Even many priests who are pro-renewables oppose it.

In short, the two provinces are deficient in power. They need some for big, base-load (can run 24/7 non-stop) power plants. They currently buy power from coal plants in Cebu so that they will not have daily brown outs.

Figure 1. Visayas grid power supply by fuel source and by island, March 2014. 1
There is huge supply of geothermal power in the Visayas. In particular, 723 MW in Leyte and 192 MW in  Negros (Palinpinon), total of 915 MW. Some of the geothermal output of Leyte are sold to energy consumers in Bicol and southern Luzon.

Biomass including bioethanol have installed capacity of 44 MW while hydro provide another 11 MW.

Cebu, the industrial and commercial hub of the Visayas regions, is powered largely by coal and diesel power plants. Without these “non-renewable” energy sources, it is not possible for this central Visayas island and commercial center to sustain its business dynamism.

Figure 2. Visayas grid coal and oil-based power plants as of 2013.

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While many people in Cadiz City, Negros Occidental, the future site of this 150 MW and first coal power plant in the island, are happy with this new development, some sectors are not happy with this news. Their main concern is danger to public health because of coal soot pollution plus threats of “man-made” climate change.

Public health is a valid concern but very often, the fear of fictional monster of coal pollution is much larger than any real pollution. The anti-coal activists and campaigners, often influenced or hoodwinked by Greenpeace activists, are saying that communities that are close to the coal power plant are in danger of massive sickness if not deaths.

If there fear and worries are correct, then there should have been tens of thousands of massive sickness in the municipalities of Naga and Toledo in Cebu, the host of the four coal  power plants with a combined installed capacity of 642 MW or more than 4x the projected coal power plant in Cadiz City.

In addition, there should have been hundreds of thousands more of sick and  dying people in Luzon who live close to coal power plants. Like western Pangasinan with 1,294 MW;  eastern Quezon (Pagbilao and Mauban) with 1,275 MW; northern Bataan with 652 MW; northern Zambales with 630 MW; eastern Batangas with 600 MW, etc. These five provinces plus Pampanga and Bulacan that host smaller coal  plants have a combined installed capacity of 4,531 MW of coal power, or more than 30x the proposed coal plant in northern Negros.

Figure 3. Coal power plants in Luzon, 2013.
3Source is DOE.

What can cause more harm and danger to people’s lives are the following: (1) frequent fires due to frequent use of candles or “gasera” when electricity is often absent; (2) frequent road accidents and crimes when streets are dark at night because electricity supply is unstable and the price is high; (3) various respiratory diseases because air-con or electric fans are often out due to  insufficient electricity supply, and (4) poverty and joblessness because manufacturing, industrial and commercial centers are few, because there is unstable and  expensive electricity.

As the Visayas provinces and the Philippine economy in general grow faster, the need for more stable and cheaper energy sources also rise. Coal and natural gas can provide such energy need. The renewables like solar and  wind can help but they are intermittent and unstable power sources. When the wind does not blow, when it is night time, their energy output is zero. They are also expensive, they require mandatory feed-in-tariff (FIT) and other subsidies, which means higher electricity bill for the consumers, to make them appear “viable” and “affordable”.

People should recognize the value of cheap and stable electricity supply. Emotionalism and exaggerated fear of coal pollution can cause unnecessary opposition to cheap and stable electricity.

The proposed coal power plant in Cadiz City, Negros Occ.

* Originally posted on April 14, 2015.

The first coal power plant in Negros island (composed of two provinces, Negros Occidental and Oriental),150 MW and costing P15.5 B, has been proposed and construction is projected to start in the 4th quarter of this year. See the interaksyon story last April 06, 2015.
1I posted that report in our community fb page (6,100+ members) that same day.

I anticipated negative reactions but not immediate harsh comments. Within minutes, the harsh responses came.  Little on the  issue but pure personal  attacks. Emotionalism and stupidity often prevails in the heads of some people.

I showed this table, that it was precisely the coal power plants in the nearby island-province of Cebu that provide additional power and electricity to Cadiz and the rest of the two Negros provinces because the Negros’ only big power plant, Palinpinon geothermal (installed capacity 192 MW, dependable capacity is lower as it is an old, 32 years old power plant).

2The other day, another member of the fb group and also a friend many years back, Joe Real, posted this article with his note,

3Imagine if the coal plant begins its operations in Cadiz City. There would be a sudden jump of respiratory diseases and damaged lungs especially of children and people are left on their own to carry the heavy burden of collateral damages.”

Two members mentioned me and said that I should read that article. I reminded them that I  already started a discussion on  the issue but the moderators deleted the entire thread; that I am ready for a real debate on the issue, no personal attacks. The two members who mentioned me never replied.

Another member posted images/meme of “Toxic coal pollution”, “water contamination”, “No clean coal”, etc. I reminded him that if people in Cadiz and the rest of Negros have electricity now, they can do fb and enjoy youtube, they should be thankful of coal power plants from Cebu. Then I asked the following questions:

(1) Naga and Toledo, Cebu, host 642 MW of coal power plants (see table above) for many years now. Are these health concerns exhibited or visible in Naga and Toledo, but not exhibited in other municipalities of Cebu away from the coal plants? Or not exhibited in Negros which has zero coal power plant at the moment?

(2) Many provinces in Luzon have coal power plants that are 4x, 8x larger than the proposed coal plant in Cadiz. Are these fear of “toxic coal pollution” and “water contamination” exhibited in the provinces of Pangasinan, Bataan, Zambales, Quezon, Batangas?

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(3) Lapaz, Iloilo City, currently has 164 MW coal plant operating for several years now, Are these concerns of “coal toxic pollution” and water contamination exhibited in Iloilo City?

They are building a 2nd coal plant in Iloilo City now, 150 MW, to be operational by June 2016. Iloilo city alone will have 316 MW of coal next year then. Electric cooperatives from Iloilo, Guimaras and Antique provinces have rushed securing a power supply contract already, rather cheap at only P5/kWh. See story.

(4) From this Bloomberg report, April 9, 2015:

6“Japan has 43 coal power projects either under construction or planned, representing combined capacity of 21,200 megawatts,” 

Are those concerns of “coal toxic pollution” and water contamination not exhibited in Japan that they are building 43 more coal plants?

No direct answer from the anti-coal camp. Meanwhile, another report from Foreign Policy, April 08, 2015.

“coal will be the only baseload option left to power about 30 percent or more of the Japanese electricity sector, a significant uptick compared with the pre-Fukushima period…

Coal accounted for about one-quarter of Japan’s electricity before the nuclear accident. Since then, Japan has increased the share of coal to about 30 percent…” 

I recognize that there is threat to pubic health, direct or indirect, short- or long-term, from ALL sources of energy, whether they are from fossil fuels like coal or renewables. Like this threat of wind towers.

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For some people, they would rather embrace more brownouts, or have more candles (which invite frequent fires and huge threat to lives and properties) or more generators (which also run on fossil fuel, cause noise and air pollution and are expensive) than accept coal power. I asked question #4 above because Japan is the most strict in public health protection in Asia and possibly in the whole planet, yet they are building more coal plants.

People should be careful not to be hoodwinked by the campaigns and blackmails of the climate alarmism camp who silently campaign for global ecological socialism. To fight poverty and create more businesses and  jobs, having cheap and stable energy sources like hydro, coal and natural gas is a must, a necessity.

More intolerance by the anti-coal activists, 2012 debate

* Originally posted on September 27, 2012.

The construction of a coal terminal leading to a future coal power plant in Cadiz City, Negros Occidental continues to evoke debates and emotionalism. There are two main protagonists there. One is the City government itself which supported and helped facilitate the entry of the power plant. The other is the Cadiznon Kontra Coal (CKZ). Both have facebook groups below.

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Based on my engagement with them, I can say that both groups have the latter has shown high intolerance when you question them or you show non-alliance with them. I have proof for saying this.

On the CKZ, there is that attitude full of angst and anger, the attack is personal, on anyone who show support for a coal power plant. See my two compilation of debate with these guys, posted here yesterday.

The first is 15 pages long while the second is 23 pages. This compilation is equally long, about 16 pages including the 3 photos.

On the City government, I wrote them a letter last Tuesday, September 25 and posted in their fb group, below:

Hon. Patrick Escalante
Mayor, Cadiz City 

Dear Mayor Escalante,


In the Cadizmycitymyhome fb group, a certain Ariel Deriada said that “coal terminal in tinampaan, the project developer already acquired ECC in less than a month and had finished building concrete walls around the land where it will be built.there was no public hearing…. inland coal terminal application for ECC frm the emb was received march 3, 2012–it was approved april 11, 2012.”


How true are these statements? 


I am pro-coal, also pro-nuke, pro-geothermal, pro-natural gas, pro-hydro, etc. but I also believe that all the requirements by the national government such as an ECC and passing the EIA should be complied with. 


Where can we see the results of the EIA? Can you make it available online? 


Lack of transparency causes more public cynicism and skepticism, and fuels often unnecessary opposition. I hope the City government can be more transparent about this issue.


Thank you very much.


Sincerely yours,


Bienvenido “Nonoy” Oplas, Jr.

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Today, I checked the City Information Office’s facebook group to see if they already replied to my letter —
I was happy to see that the Mayor has responded. He wrote,

Thanks noy for the letter. If your late brother, former councilor, Atty Nestor was around, he would have sided with you. Anyway you could either be pro or anti coal power,the bottom line is will these bring more good or harm to our city. Ive been to the cities were these plants exist, talked to the people and their local governments, health officials, businessmen, et al., the more reason I believe that this project is viable and would help our city tremendously as I have obseved. The ECC and EIA were issued by the DENR to the project proponent to the coal terminal at brgy tinampaan. I will secure a copy and give it to you or post it online in this site. Thanks a lot for your understanding. Regards to you and your family.

Many (but not all) CKZ guys will launch a barrage of personal attacks and insults to people who show support for a coal power plant even if the project is supposed to hurdle the established environmental requirements of the government. It is difficult to argue on substance, numbers and statistics because below the belt attacks will always come up.

So the public I think should be more wary of the anti camp. You have a bunch of fanatics who say “No to Coal, period” No prolonged debates will be entertained as personal attacks are longer than discussion on substance and data. Of course there can be fanatics on the other side too who can say, “Yes to Coal, period” even if a coal power project has not hurdled certain environmental and health requirements. But I did not see pro-coal fanatics in the debates, I only saw the anti-coal fanatics.

Below are the photos of the environmental clearance certificate (ECC) that was issued to the coal power plant proponent. It is posted in the CKZ group. Some guys there are doing their research work more intelligently than the rest.
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Intolerance in anti-coal hysteria in the proposed Cadiz coal project

* Originally posted on September 17, 2012.

Have you argued with fanatics, people who will use harsh words and tactics and will never change their position even if confronted with facts that do not conform with their ideals?

Below is another example of arguing with fanatics. Some, if not many of their words and arguments are generally tinged with high anger and intolerance. You do not agree with their arguments, they throw undesirable adjectives and words against you.

Last Wednesday, September 12, I posted below in the Cadizmycitymyhome facebook group. This is about the coal terminal and coal power plant project that is said to have been approved by the Cadiz City government already, in the province of Negros Occidental. I came from that city, I was born there, took my elementary and high school education there.

Observe the kind of language that the “No to coal no matter what” argument and proponents use. Again, this is a long exchange, from September 12 to 14. Then an update today, further below. This is 23+ pages long, get your snacks and enjoy the fireworks 🙂
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Nonoy Oplas
I understand the majority sentiment against coal, fine. For me, I am pro-nuke, pro-geothermal, pro-coal, pro-natural gas, pro-shale gas. I am also pro-solar/wind, so long as no taxpayers’ subsidies will be given to these renewables that will make our electricity rates become even more expensive.

But it is another thing to demand a “shut down all coal power plants in the country”. As of 2010, 34.4 percent of the whole country was dependent on coal power and dependence from wind, solar and biomass combined was only 0.1 percent,
http://www.interaksyon.com/business/37648/fat-free-economics-coal-climate-and-government. Thank you.
FAT-FREE ECONOMICS: Coal, climate and government – InterAksyon.com

Tiny Bee Are you also pro-life, pro-health and pro-environment? With due respect……

No doubt, COAL is CHEAP and so is life maybe 🙂

Nonoy Oplas I am pro-life, pro-health, pro-environment, pro-trees, pro-dolphins and other bleeding heart concerns. But the main issue is transparency of the city govt or not. If they were not transparent, the project proponent did not follow the EIA and other requirements, then that coal project should not proceed, it should be stopped. If they follow the requirements, the project should proceed.

The same process should apply, that all power project proposals — geothermal, nuke, natural gas, hydro, oil-based, wind/solar — should comply with the EIA requirements.

Nonoy Oplas Please note that I will blog and publicize all succeeding comments in this thread. Both civil comments and personal attacks I will publish, no exception, no alteration. If we want transparency from the government, national and local, we should also practice transparency in our ideas, do not be afraid to stand for your ideas. My previous blog post about the debate in this group about the subject is here, about 15 pages long, http://funwithgovernment.blogspot.com/2012/09/energy-econ-5-coal-power-in-cadiz.html
Government and Taxes: Energy Econ 5: Coal Power in Cadiz, Negros Occidental

Tiny Bee Transparent indi pareho sang plastic! 🙂

Jeanette Bendijo Gamboa I just opened the link you have posted Nonoy Oplas, I think it is a good move nga gin collate mo tanan nga comments. even though we have different thoughts on this, at least you are presenting both side here.

Manong Nonoy Oplas and Toto batchmate Mai Escalante, are your engineers? I am, Tiny Bee, Jonas Delina, Sir Lar Collins Benitez and a lot of Cadiznons are. But it does not take to be an engineer to figure out your arguments. Absolutely, brownout gid ang gwa sang mga lugar sa Pilipinas kag sa Amerika kung i-shut down ang mga coal power plants, kay dira na nakawire ang mga power supplies nga gahatag energy sa pumuluyo mo! Subong nga kadamo damo na sang CFPP sa bilog nga kalibutan, nakita ta na ang effect sa environment kag sa health sang mga tawo. Pero indi dayon mashutdown kay dira mo na ginpasalig ang imo power! Amo gani ang isyu ta di indi PAG ITUKOD ANG COAL POWER PLANT SA CADIZ, para indi ta mag intra sa campaign nga IPA SHUT DOWN . Kay wala pa natukod TAPNA ON na! We are struggling for power shortage, that could be partly true, but surely we are not dying if have shortage. We will be dying if we got the plant on site.
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Proposed coal power in Cadiz City, Negros Occidental

* Originally posted on September  06, 2012.

Of all energy sources, coal power plants are the most demonized by the Greenies or environmentalist groups. And since many of those greenies are good at emotional campaigns, the public tend to get their biases.

1st row: Sual power, Pangasinan;

2nd row: Kepco power, Cebu; Pagbilao power, Quezon;
3rd row:  Masinloc power, Zambales; Mindanao power;

4th row: sketch of a power plant; old models often pictured as the “typical face” of a coal power plant.

There is an approved coal terminal, leading to the construction of a coal power plant in Cadiz City, Negros Occidental. This is my hometown, I was born there, finished my elementary and high school education there. My parents and two siblings are still there, along with many other relatives.

I belong to a facebook group called “Cadizmycitymyhome” and this power terminal is now a hot topic. Majority of those who registered their opinion on the subject are anti-coal in the first place, and there was little discussion on how the city government went through the process.

Below are the recent exchanges since yesterday, I copy-paste them here, zero alteration. Some discussions are in Ilongo. This is long, including the updates below, about 15 pages, so get your favorite snacks 🙂
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TessBench 
Yes to Coal or No to Coal?

Matranillo  isip isip ,,,lalo na ang mga estudyanti,,yung malapit sa dagat…

Reginaldo  daw amo mana ginmitlang sg isa ka konsehal ho ang my sungay…

TessBench  Pili lang kamo green or black the choice is yours the consequence is ours!

Lar  Ayaw ko sa ma sungay 😦

Nonoy  ba’t ka pa mag isip, sa drawing pa lang, anghel na ang renewables, evil na dayon ang coal. More creativiity please.
I also posted this in another thread, our most expensive power rates in the whole of Asia will become even more expensive, thanks to the those “green power”,
http://funwithgovernment.blogspot.com/2012/07/energy-econ-2-renewable-energy-and-high.html
Government and Taxes: Energy Econ 2: Renewable Energy and High Electricity Prices

TessBench  noy bisan butang nimo warning people still would choice the evil one take for example the cigarettes people still smoke .

Nonoy tobacco is a different thing, it is a self-imposed vice, and people own their bodies, not us, not the government, so let them do what they want so long as they don’t engage in physical aggression.

Basically ang choices naton, (a) green power but unstable and more brown outs, and still expensive, (b) coal, stable power and cheaper. Ambot lang kon pirmi ang brown out sa Negros subong, or some big companies that can hire many people want to come in but are scared of the low power supply in cadiz or elsewhere.

TessBench Medado Palma kon sa bagay Noy i see ur point smoking is a personal choice but this case naton sa Cadiz sa coal, people are sometimes not given a choice but accept the government project whether they like it or not .

Nonoy Gani ang question lang da is the process. Did the city government make shortcuts or not? Did the coal power proponent follow the EIA and other requirements or not? If yes, then the city government and power proponent shd be made answerable. If No, then the project should proceed.

For those advocating green power, they should also invite those companies to put up solar, wind, biomass, etc. But since these power sources are highly unstable (the wind does not blow all the time, the sun does not show up all day and it’s “hiding” at night), one would still need back up power and guess where you can get those back up power? from coal, or nat gas, where else.

Emay Mam Tess and sir Nonoy oplas i do agree with u too…but i guess the govt of cadiz want us too ponder on this things, papunta po tayo sa kaunlaran ng Lunsod ng Cadiz.Sana lng pakaisiping mabuti kung tama ba ito para sa mga taong bayan…

Nonoy If you want growth and development, you must have power or electricity, at the cheapest price and stable supply as much as possible. Supposed a big company would like to put up a huge theme park in Cadiz or nearby, that will create hundreds if not thousands of new jobs there. But if electricity supply is low and the price is high, that company will not come in. Plus the daily needs of each household, law-ay man kon gatuon mga bata, tapos mag brown out, ti balik kandila kag kingki mga tawo, not good, right?

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